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Morphmaker101
(#13981): Thats also why you can get Banded Yellowbellies, or really clean lines of Fire, like Desert Lemon, Lucifer or Flame
Morphmaker101
(#13981): Lesser, Platty Daddy Butter, Phantom, Mystic Orange Dream all have allele modifier genes attached
Morphmaker101
(#13981): People don't realise and or misconstrue lineage and polymorphic traits.
RosyWindFox
(#22865): any good breeder will test breed to similar genes but Ive heard of many cases where they do not and then it ends up being proven identical
Morphmaker101
(#13981): Spotnose is what I'd deduced, too...
Morphmaker101
(#13981): Many I know of 'test breed' to similar genes, people just like to argue and complain
RosyWindFox
(#22865): talking to my BP friends and 'Maker' seems to just be spotnose
RosyWindFox
(#22865): This is why I work with hognoses irl haha its much less of an issue
RosyWindFox
(#22865): There is a big issue with ball python breeders not test breeding their gene against exsisting similar genes to see if theyre identical I wonder if this was one of those
RosyWindFox
(#22865): the best I can find is that it may have ended up being identical to spotnose but Im really not finding anything about this morph online beyond the WOBP page
RosyWindFox
(#22865): Im going to ask my ball python breeder friends because Im a little baffled at how a gene is around for 11 year suppossedly and there's no proof of existence that isnt from when it was first discovered
RosyWindFox
(#22865): The breeder has over 300 animals listed for sale and not one with the 'maker' gene. Considering it was discovered 11 years ago supossedly I think they would have plenty of breeding adults this season with the gene if they were still working with it
Morphmaker101
(#13981): Herman Van Hellem is a big name in Europe, pic on WOB looks like a trait to me, can't vouch for it further, just sharing what I could
RosyWindFox
(#22865): I cannot find anyone who works with this gene at all. From what I can see it was never really proven out but somehow made it onto WOBP?
Morphmaker101
(#13981): Produced any this season*
Morphmaker101
(#13981): Potentially debunked, maybe just not produced any, pic on WOB looks Spotnose esqe to me? Who knows
Morphmaker101
(#13981): World Of Ball Pythons was the place to go outside of BP.Net before Morphmarket was conceptualised 10+yrs ago
RosyWindFox
(#22865): The original person who claims to have discovered it also doesn't even seem to have any? Not a single snake theyve posted in the past year has the gene and I dont see anyone else selling it I wonder if it was debunked
RosyWindFox
(#22865): Weird I had never seen that one before and its not listed on a lot of platforms Ive seen that show morphs :thinking: I wonder what happened there
Morphmaker101
(#13981): https://worldofballpythons.com/en/morphs/maker
Morphmaker101
(#13981): Maker was first produced by Herman Van Hellem, 2015 alot of the newer genes are reactive with others (In game)
RosyWindFox
(#22865): Im well aware there's lots of linebred traits and many breeders are quick to call small differences morphs but that was not what I was talking about.
RosyWindFox
(#22865): I wasnt talking about that. There is no morph that has ever exsisted called maker. No breeder has ever claimed it has. What I am guessing is someone who was looking into genetics saw 'male maker' and 'female maker' in some animal listings (which are in reference to sex linked morphs such as banana) and then put it in the list of morphs to make as a morph
RBG_Xorphix
(#1): yeah, still recovering but its much better :)
WWECornSerpent
(#2122): Rumor says you broke your wrist.
WWECornSerpent
(#2122): Xorphix!! Good to see you!
WWECornSerpent
(#2122): Personally, Royals have quite a few "not a real morph". Something a little different hatches out of an egg and is immediately called a new morph that is "Incomplete dominant" instead of just a normal variation that, if you're lucky, can be selectively bred for. Perfect examples are Okeetee, Miami Phase and Upper Keys Corn snakes. They are "localities" that have been selectively bred to bring out certain characteristics, but technically, they are all Normals.
RBG_Xorphix
(#1): heya folks :)
RosyWindFox
(#22865): which would make sense considering its not a real morph and I think got added to the game through a misunderstanding
RosyWindFox
(#22865): to my knowledge it doesnt do anything
Morphmaker101
(#13981): Brightens too
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Morphmaker101
(#13981): Tweaks Calico from what I can see
mistdragonwolf
(#15910): What does the maker morph do?
Lyric1228
(#24225): welp... before i started my royal cull i had 1,796... i now have 855...an i may cull again..
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RosyWindFox
(#22865): 20 turns up for one token
Lyric1228
(#24225): hello
Breakout26
(#23286): hai :D
RosyWindFox
(#22865): you just cannot breed morph x morph at level one
RosyWindFox
(#22865): You cannot. At genetics level 0 you will have to breed morph x normal
Katelyn
(#39410): Can I get a morph from breeding 2 normals or not? If not how do I get genetics xp when all I can breed is normals
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