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RosyWindFox (#22865): the space is a bit annoying. I dont mind a ton since I dont bulk buy them and I can put a bunch of juvies in an enclosure together
Lyric1228 (#24225): The space they take up is just hard to justify anymore.. im starting to have issues with anything taking up a lot of space slots altogether so my boas are getting on my nerves as well
Jakeypancakey (#36099): That is mostly what I have lol Lots of royals, lots of leopard geckos, as well as common boas, crested geckos, just gor a few female panther chameleons, Blood pythons, green trees, Hondurans, african fat tails, koi, bettas, lol little bit of this little bit of that
RosyWindFox (#22865): I'd recommend cornsnakes, royals and leoapard geckos for levelling up genetics
RosyWindFox (#22865): I dont recommend retics for levelling up because they take a really long time to reach breeding age and between clutches
Jakeypancakey (#36099): Uh both I guess, I am trying to level up lol Sitting at 47 breeding 56 Genetics
Jakeypancakey (#36099): Dollyleopardgecko Stunning
Lyric1228 (#24225): in what way? morph wise, clutch size wise?
Jakeypancakey (#36099): Do the retics produce well?
Lyric1228 (#24225): I can't decide if i want to swap/trade out my retics for a different species... opinions?
Dollyleopardgecko (#36426): this ones a beauty havent seen something like this! Check out this reptile!
Jakeypancakey (#36099): 20 turns 1 token added to market
Cornsnake1995 (#27122): Check out this reptile!
Cornsnake1995 (#27122): Yay finally hatched a black snake
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RosyWindFox (#22865): mantises, leaf tailed geckos and leopard geckos UFS on market!
RosyWindFox (#22865): 20 turns UFS for 1 token!
Jakeypancakey (#36099): Looking for any unwanted African Fat Tail Geckos!
Jakeypancakey (#36099): Hello! :) I was hoping to use someone's panther chameleon studs? :) I have 20 ready females, (16-19 Loci) But the studs on the market all have to many loci, I am only level 56 lol I was hoping to get; Tamatave, Maroantsetra, Nosybe, Andapa, or Ambato if at all possible! Thanks in advance
Lyric1228 (#24225): that phantom champagne fire is beautiful Cornsnake
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Morphmaker101 (#13981): Thats also why you can get Banded Yellowbellies, or really clean lines of Fire, like Desert Lemon, Lucifer or Flame
Morphmaker101 (#13981): Lesser, Platty Daddy Butter, Phantom, Mystic Orange Dream all have allele modifier genes attached
Morphmaker101 (#13981): People don't realise and or misconstrue lineage and polymorphic traits.
RosyWindFox (#22865): any good breeder will test breed to similar genes but Ive heard of many cases where they do not and then it ends up being proven identical
Morphmaker101 (#13981): Spotnose is what I'd deduced, too...
Morphmaker101 (#13981): Many I know of 'test breed' to similar genes, people just like to argue and complain
RosyWindFox (#22865): talking to my BP friends and 'Maker' seems to just be spotnose
RosyWindFox (#22865): This is why I work with hognoses irl haha its much less of an issue
RosyWindFox (#22865): There is a big issue with ball python breeders not test breeding their gene against exsisting similar genes to see if theyre identical I wonder if this was one of those
RosyWindFox (#22865): the best I can find is that it may have ended up being identical to spotnose but Im really not finding anything about this morph online beyond the WOBP page
RosyWindFox (#22865): Im going to ask my ball python breeder friends because Im a little baffled at how a gene is around for 11 year suppossedly and there's no proof of existence that isnt from when it was first discovered
RosyWindFox (#22865): The breeder has over 300 animals listed for sale and not one with the 'maker' gene. Considering it was discovered 11 years ago supossedly I think they would have plenty of breeding adults this season with the gene if they were still working with it
Morphmaker101 (#13981): Herman Van Hellem is a big name in Europe, pic on WOB looks like a trait to me, can't vouch for it further, just sharing what I could
RosyWindFox (#22865): I cannot find anyone who works with this gene at all. From what I can see it was never really proven out but somehow made it onto WOBP?
Morphmaker101 (#13981): Produced any this season*
Morphmaker101 (#13981): Potentially debunked, maybe just not produced any, pic on WOB looks Spotnose esqe to me? Who knows
Morphmaker101 (#13981): World Of Ball Pythons was the place to go outside of BP.Net before Morphmarket was conceptualised 10+yrs ago
RosyWindFox (#22865): The original person who claims to have discovered it also doesn't even seem to have any? Not a single snake theyve posted in the past year has the gene and I dont see anyone else selling it I wonder if it was debunked
RosyWindFox (#22865): Weird I had never seen that one before and its not listed on a lot of platforms Ive seen that show morphs :thinking: I wonder what happened there
Morphmaker101 (#13981): https://worldofballpythons.com/en/morphs/maker
Morphmaker101 (#13981): Maker was first produced by Herman Van Hellem, 2015 alot of the newer genes are reactive with others (In game)

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